http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-2009 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-2009 Thu, 08 May 2008 22:53:24 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/web608-may-11th-meeting Hello local user groups, On May 11th Web608 is hold our first meeting and we hope you will join us. We will be holding monthly meetings and monthly Geek Dinner as we work to build Madison's web community. Web608 is oriented around web technology and because the web is so broad we will strive to have as diverse a collection of topics as possible. If you have topics you would like to present please drop me a line: amw@abrah.am http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/web608-may-11th-meeting Wed, 07 May 2008 17:45:30 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/open-perl-dev-position I spoke with a recruiter today who is looking to fill a couple of positions in Milwaukee. If you're looking for a contract position, take a look at the details and email him. Fortune 500 Digital Media Company acquired an online Company in Milwaukee. Two Perl programmers are needed to integrate the companies' systems. This is a four month contract (May to September). Fulltime hours, on-site in Milwaukee. Rate is negotiable based on experience. Please contact Mike Reynolds to discuss this opportunity in more detail. Michael Reynolds Associate Recruiter Revelation Partners, LLC 75 Fifth Street, NW Suite 625 Atlanta, GA 30308 michael@revelationpartners.com 404.920.3156 JT Smith ph: 703-286-2525 x810 fx: 312-264-5382 Create like a god. Command like a king. Work like a slave. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/open-perl-dev-position Wed, 07 May 2008 10:53:24 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/htmlmason Does anyone have experience with HTML::Mason? I've done a bit of reading online, and picked up a copy of the relevant O'Reilly text, and I like what I've seen, but was wondering what the thoughts were of some "real world" users might be. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/htmlmason Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:03:34 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-indexing-backpan-materials 2 Notes from brian d foy in Chi.pm (as for the 2nd maybe we (and http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-indexing-backpan-materials Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:05:30 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-presentation-on-perl-testing-to-madison_pm I posted the slides from my testing talk to the Perl-QA mailing http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-presentation-on-perl-testing-to-madison_pm Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:29:22 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-registration-open At this week's meeting we discussed the awesomenes of YAPC (Yet Another Perl Conference). Regstration opened today for $85 -- cheap and conveniently close to Madison! JT and I will be speakers. My talk will be a repeat of the PAR/Fuse/PDF talk I gave here in Madison back in December. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-registration-open Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:07:30 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/slides-for-tonights-talk-on-testing Here is the URL for my slides for tonight's talk on software testing. As of this writing, they need a little more work, but I'll be sure to post the latest draft just before the meeting so anyone can follow along during the talk. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/slides-for-tonights-talk-on-testing Tue, 15 Apr 2008 02:33:31 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/java-to-perl-via-vim http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2008/04/vim_filters_transforming_java.html?CMP=OTC-6YE827253101&ATT=Vim+Filters+Transforming+Java+to+Perl http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/java-to-perl-via-vim Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:37:22 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder2 The MadMongers meeting is next Tuesday, not this Thursday. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder2 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:57:20 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/testing-befuddlement Hey. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/testing-befuddlement Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:56:21 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-baseless-myths-and-startling-realities A while ago I wrote a blog entry called Perl is dead. Long Live Perl! It got quite a bit of attention in the Perl world and was even translated and cross published on in various languages on various sites. That article talked about the fact that not only is Perl not a dead language, but that it's not even dying. Recently Tim Bunce has created a presentation called "Perl: Baseless Myths and Startling Realities" and he's put it up on slide share so we can all take a look. If you're interested in the reality of Perl, I suggest giving it a look. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-baseless-myths-and-startling-realities Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:37:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/new-meeting-location-and-date From now on our meetings will be held at the Alt N Bach's Town Tap in the Bach (back) room, instead of the Madison Public Library. In addition, our new meeting night is the third Tuesday of every month. This new time didn't conflict with any of the regular's schedules and will allow some other's who want to be regulars to show up more regularly. =) Our next meeting is on April 15th at 6:45 and will be Chris Dolan talking about testing in Perl. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/new-meeting-location-and-date Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:50:26 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapc-damian-at-yapc hi all, http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapc-damian-at-yapc Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:02:20 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/chi-pm-moose-will-also-be-loose-down-south In case anybody want to travel: http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/chi-pm-moose-will-also-be-loose-down-south Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:45:29 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/job-opening--plain-black Hey everyone, we have a new job opening at Plain Black and are looking for bright, talented, and motivated people to join our team. If you or anyone you know is looking for a job as a Perl developer, direct them to our job posting here on the site: http://www.madmongers.org/jobs/jobs/perl-/-webgui-developer#RIIZa5lnnn_gGjxyrc_Tig Looking forward to next months meeting! http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/job-opening--plain-black Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:01:32 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hackathon2 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hackathon2 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:18:21 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hi2 Hey http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hi2 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:19:20 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wrap-up-for-tonights-meeting We had a great meeting tonight. I believe there were eleven or twelve of us there tonight. Our newest member Abraham gave a 20 minute talk on BarCamp Madison 2. I then did Frank's talk on OO Perl, because Frank unfortunately came down with the Flu. We did some hilarious subclassing of GirlFriend objects into Wife objects. And we even managed to merge a boat and car to make an amphibious vehicle. We talked briefly about Moose vs Class::InsideOut, Devel::Graph, and Class::Exception. We also chatted about the upcoming Testing and Moose talks. And finally we closed out a little chat about the Komodo IDE. The people in attendance suggested the following as topic for future talks and mini talks: Komodo IDE vs Komodo Edit vs Vim Class::Exception Tools for coping with a new codebase (inherited or framework) And we've decided to make a couple changes to the meeting. Provided it's available, Andy is checking, we're going to meet in the Bach room of AltnBachs from now on rather than the library. We're switching the night to the third Tuesday of the month. This will help several people that were in attendance tonight, and several others that have said they wished they could come. In addition, the only user group that we are aware of that this will overlap with is the midrange computers user group (AS/400 RPG programmers). I'll update the meetings page and meetup.com as soon as Andy confirms that the room is available. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wrap-up-for-tonights-meeting Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:51:06 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wisconsin-community-groups-google-docs I've shared a document with you called "Wisconsin Community Groups": http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pDMgmYwi3Um77V18tIM76Kw&inv=madtalk@madmongers.org&t=6459734346883352926&guest It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document, just click the link above. Here is the list of local user groups that I have been collecting. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wisconsin-community-groups-google-docs Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:51:21 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-this-week Don't forget we've got a meeting this week, and we're at a new http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-this-week Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:14:22 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-madmongers-talk Jeff Horn will be giving a talk on the Moose object framework in May. Begin forwarded message: From: "Jeffrey Horn" <jeffh@chartermi.net> Date: March 5, 2008 3:55:55 PM CST To: <jt@plainblack.com> Subject: MadMongers Talk JT, I've been working a lot with Moose lately. I'd like to do a talk "Moose on the Loose" whenever there's a slot open at MadMongers... I'm sure you have topics out a few months, but just let me know when you might have an opening. -- Jeff Horn JT Smith ph: 703-286-2525 x810 fx: 312-264-5382 Create like a god. Command like a king. Work like a slave. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-madmongers-talk Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:03:23 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lopsa-madison--league-of-professional-system-administrators http://lopsa.org/US-WI-MAD http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lopsa-madison--league-of-professional-system-administrators Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:37:23 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-pm_groups-introducing-the-perl-college I haven't decided whether this is good or not, but here's the email I got from Uri explaining the Perl College. Do with it as you will. Begin forwarded message: From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> Date: February 29, 2008 3:29:44 PM CST To: pm_groups@pm.org Subject: [pm_groups] Introducing The Perl College hi all pm leaders, please forward to your local pm lists if you deem it appropriate. thanx, uri What is the Perl College? The Perl College is a creative merger of job training and job fairs. Here are its primary goals: * Provide free top quality training to qualified junior level Perl developers * Improve their Perl skills to the intermediate level * Match the new graduates with Perl jobs in the hiring companies * http://perlhunter.com/college.html The Perl College was created to address these issues in recruiting Perl coders: * A shortage of intermediate level Perl developers * A surplus of junior level Perl developers * Some are not developing Perl full time * Many are looking for a career developing Perl but can't get needed training and experience * Companies lacking the resources to train Perl developers We are currently seeking both sponsors and students for this unique education/recruitment opportunity. Hiring Sponsors: Thirty great applicants - cheap! Imagine how much it would cost in both time and money to find and train a qualified applicant for your Perl jobs. The Perl College dramatically improves the efficiency of this process by pre-screening and accepting only the most motivated students. Then we take it one step further. We take those already highly motivated students and train them up to a solid intermediate level of Perl skills. Efficiency, cost effectiveness and quality results - what could be better for your Perl recruitment needs? Student Candidates: Put yourself ahead of the competition. If selected you will have a week of free training from Damian Conway (valued at $3000). Plus you will exposed to employers who are actively seeking intermediate level Perl developers. Competition to get in will be fierce so put your best foot forward. Don't wait to apply as we will take only the thirty most qualified students. For more information on The Perl College, and how to apply to be a sponsor or a student go to these pages: http://perlhunter.com/college.html http://perlhunter.com/sponsors.html http://perlhunter.com/students.html Thanks, Uri Guttman, Dean of The Perl College -- Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com -- ----- Perl Architecture, Development, Training, Support, Code Review ------ ----------- Search or Offer Perl Jobs ----- http://jobs.perl.org --------- --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com --------- -- Request pm.org Technical Support via support@pm.org pm_groups mailing list pm_groups@pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups JT Smith ph: 703-286-2525 x810 fx: 312-264-5382 Create like a god. Command like a king. Work like a slave. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-pm_groups-introducing-the-perl-college Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:58:23 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-madmongers-march-meeting2 Awesome. Thanks. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:40 PM, JT Smith <jt@plainblack.com> wrote: http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-madmongers-march-meeting2 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:24:20 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-madmongers-march-meeting I'm all for it. On Feb 28, 2008, at 11:03 PM, Abraham Williams wrote: If its ok I would like to do a 10 minute presentation on BarCampMadison2 at the March meeting. Thanks, Abraham. -- | Abraham Williams | Web Developer | Lothlórien Coop | Madison WI | http://abrah.am | http://lothwiki.org | http://2600madison.info | This email is: [] blogable [x] ask first [] private JT Smith ph: 703-286-2525 x810 fx: 312-264-5382 Create like a god. Command like a king. Work like a slave. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-madmongers-march-meeting Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:40:29 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/which-scripting-language-has-the-most-rabid-notifiers I do like LJ as a useful mag though .... *Linux Journal* stages a language popularity contest contest. http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-your-favorite-scripting-language http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/which-scripting-language-has-the-most-rabid-notifiers Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:07:23 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapc-banners PlainBlack created the YAPC::NA banners as seen on madmongers.org, but DOH! there is a typo. It should be "YAPC::NA" not "YAPC:NA" Chris http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapc-banners Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:27:05 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/oreilly-discount At the social meeting someone brought up OReilly discounts. On their http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/oreilly-discount Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:33:20 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jobs-and-companies As the Madison Area Perl Mongers I think it should be our job to http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jobs-and-companies Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:57:22 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/are-we-on Are we on for tomorrow night at AltnBachs? http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/are-we-on Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:05:35 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-2008-winter-scripting-games-have-begun ----- Forwarded by Andy Bach on 02/18/08 06:22 PM ----- Jan Dubois wrote: > Microsoft is running the 3rd annual Scripting Games competition, and > this year they added a Perl division alongside VBScript and Windows http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-2008-winter-scripting-games-have-begun Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:26:23 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/sorry-guys I busted the mail queue on mad mongers without realizing it. I've http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/sorry-guys Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:26:27 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-2008 I just submitted my PAR + PDF + FUSE talk to YAPC::NA 2008 today. Is anyone else planning to attend or speak? (Of course the Plain Black crew is going -- they're sponsors!) I can't make it to Frozen Perl this weekend, unfortunately, so I'm really looking forward to YAPC. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/yapcna-2008 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:11:33 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/testing-talk It just occurred to me that this group has never done a talk on general software testing. Would anyone be interested in that topic? I'm thinking subtopics like Test::More, Test::Class, Test::WWWW::Mechanize, integration with Build.PL and Makefile.PL, cpantesters, code coverage via Devel::Cover, etc. I'm a huge fan of Test::Class and Devel::Cover myself. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/testing-talk Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:00:29 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/work-for-the-uw I noticed that a few of you work for the UW. I'm thinking of applying for the UW job listed under the 'jobs' section, but I noticed it said a Bachelor's degree is required. I've applied at a few jobs before where they said a degree was required, but experience could get you in without one. Do any of you know how strict the UW is on that? I don't have my degree right now. I'm working towards it, but I'm still in school. Thanks for the help -Robert- http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/work-for-the-uw Thu, 07 Feb 2008 07:59:19 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hello-to-all Hey everyone. I just wanted to introduce myself and say hi. I'm currently a web application developer working for Vangent, INC. in arlington VA. I telecommute from WI. Recently I've decided to go back to school since being a veteran, the state pays for it. Perl is my first love of computer languages. I dabbled a bit before perl, but it wasn't until I picked up "Learning Perl" that I fell in love. My only problem now is finding things to use perl on. I don't use it at work, and don't always have something at home to use it on. Well that's a bit about me. I really look forward to meeting you guys at the next meeting in March. -Robert- http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/hello-to-all Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:42:27 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/linked-in-group MadMongers now has a Linked In group on linkedin.com. If you're not aware of Linked In, it's a social networking site for professionals. It's a great way to get connected with people for jobs, references, etc. And showing your affiliations, like MadMongers also helps garner credibility for you in the rankings. So I encourage you to join our Linked In group: http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/52558/3D68BF74C579 JT Smith ph: 703-286-2525 x810 fx: 312-264-5382 Create like a god. Command like a king. Work like a slave. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/linked-in-group Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:13:25 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/a-cool-application-of-fuse These days, I get excited when anyone does something cool with Fuse. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/a-cool-application-of-fuse Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:12:25 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-tomorrow2 Don't forget that we have a meeting tomorrow night at the Library in http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-tomorrow2 Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:53:20 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/schedule Sorry for the delay in posting the schedule, but I'm happy to report http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/schedule Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:42:21 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/my-par/fuse/pdf-talk Last week I presented a fun topic to the Madmongers group: I created http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/my-par/fuse/pdf-talk Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:59:20 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-5_10-released After years of hard work, its finally here! Its making its way around http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-5_10-released Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:43:20 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wow Tonight's meeting was AMAZING. Unfortunately, I had to leave early http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/wow Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:47:21 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-tommorrow Don't forget to come down to the Madison Public Library tomorrow http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-tommorrow Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:22:21 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fw-the-perl-review-v4-i1 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- In this issue of The Perl Review, we have several articles that we?ve worked for a long time to get into the magazine. Somehow we were able to pack them all in. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fw-the-perl-review-v4-i1 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:10:19 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/the-flaming-x-wing-secret-operator-and-open-perl-training-in-chicago 2 msgs of interest (maybe) On fwp@perl.org On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 05:09:57PM -0500, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: > Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote: >> Hi, >> http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/the-flaming-x-wing-secret-operator-and-open-perl-training-in-chicago Fri, 30 Nov 2007 13:45:33 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/back-in-the-library At last month's meeting I mentioned that I was going to try to get us a meeting space at the Brink Lounge on East Washington. They actually have a meeting room there with a screen to project on. That way we could enjoy beverages and food while doing presentations. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get a hold of them despite repeated attempts. Therefore, I've scheduled us in the Madison Public Library, our usual location, for the next six months. I'll keep scouting alternative locations, but so far it either costs us to use facilities (like at a hotel), or it's too loud or no projection surface (like at a bar). There's no happy medium. The best option would be to get a meeting space at a local business that doesn't mind if we order in pizza and beer. But so far no volunteers. If you have such a place please let me know. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/back-in-the-library Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:27:39 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/december-meeting-correction The website mistakenly said the December meeting would be Fri, Dec 14. I just corrected it to be Thursday as usual (Dec 13). http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/december-meeting-correction Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:43:35 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/december-madmongers-talk-par JT gave a great presentation about Log4Perl this month. It's an http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/december-madmongers-talk-par Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:43:39 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/itinerary-for-thursday Here's the itinerary for Thursday night. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/itinerary-for-thursday Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:45:05 -0600 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/what-do-you-want-from-madmongers Hi all. I'm just writing this note to find out what interests you so we can plan accordingly.What kind of talks could we give that would help you?Would you like Perl Workshops, starting from the very basic or that cover the insanely complex?Do you want talks on using Perl for system administration? Web development? Something else?Do you want training on specific Perl applications like WebGUI, Catalyst, SpamAssassin, or POE?In other words, what do you want to get out of MadMongers? http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/what-do-you-want-from-madmongers Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:59:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/underscores-in-numbers-in-perl Hey, What's the motivation for allowing 5_270_400 be a valid number (61 days worth of seconds, to be exact)? I'm not complaining, but I have this vague memory of a reason but .... some C compatibility? http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/underscores-in-numbers-in-perl Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:40:19 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-chicago-announce-exciting-perl-events-in-chicago-this-december ----- Forwarded by Andy Bach on 10/30/2007 02:50 PM ----- Hi all, Two things. First, Stonehenge is doing a few low-cost open-enrollment Perl courses this December downtown. Anyone is welcome to enroll. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-chicago-announce-exciting-perl-events-in-chicago-this-december Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:06:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/cgi-creating-files-w/no-perms Need some help again folks.. I have a cgi script I'm porting from sun to linux. It uses ndbm files via the AnyDBM_File module. If I copy the existing db,db.dir and db.pag files, the script gaks with an 'Unable to tie' message at the line where it tries to tie the hash to the file. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/cgi-creating-files-w/no-perms Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:35:14 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-macbook-pro-now-what >Just curious as to the details of how fink broke your Mac; what did you try to install on it that way? http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-macbook-pro-now-what Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:14:30 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/free-perl-training We have paid for our conference at this point. So if any madmongers http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/free-perl-training Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:33:18 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meetup-on-thursday Just to eliminate all confusion. This is the official announcement about Thursday's meeting. 1) It's on Thursday, not Wednesday. 2) It's at Capitol Brewery in Middleton not at JT Whitney's Capital Brewery 7734 Terrace Avenue Middleton, WI 53562 (608) 836-7100 3) It's a social meeting, not a technical meeting. So bring a friend, and a game. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meetup-on-thursday Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:07:33 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-chicago-perl-workshop-2007 Down in Chicago they're talking about: At the Perl lunch on Friday, some proposals for a workshop in December were floated (since it's almost 4 months between PPW and Frozen Perl, and who can go without a Perl conference for that long!?). Here were http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/fwd-chicago-perl-workshop-2007 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:11:10 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/october-meeting The mailing lst says Thursday but the calendar says Weds. Its Thursday this week for the social meeting, right? Chris http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/october-meeting Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:28:54 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/macbook-pro-now-what Hey, After 18 years at the same geek job, I finally got my own laptop. I went for a macbook 'cause all the cool kids have them (from L.Wall on down) so - what's your favorite app/add-on etc for the device? Cool things to do? http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/macbook-pro-now-what Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:15:26 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/2007-pittsburgh-perl-workshop http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/2007-pittsburgh-perl-workshop Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:30:26 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/java-ides Somewhere we discussed Eclipse and NetBeans - Nick's maybe? Anyway, saw this article: http://www.oreillynet.com/onjava/blog/2007/09/red_hat_developer_studio_good.html?ref=most_discussed http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/java-ides Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:50:26 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/barcampmilwaukee2 Hey... We're doing it again: BarCampMilwaukee2. What is a BarCamp? It's an ad-hoc gather of people interested in sharing and learning in an open environment. BarCampMilwaukee2 will focus on technology and creativity and run from 10AM Saturday to 4PM Sunday (non-stop!) Like building robots? Hacking at software? Discussing the digital future? BarCamp is for you! It's going down on Oct 13/14, 2007. It's a free event, but you need to pre-register to attend. Learn more and sign up at: http://barcampmilwaukee.com/ http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/barcampmilwaukee2 Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:26:40 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-perl-online-class http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-perl-online-class Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:08:06 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/october-social-meeting In October we're going to have a social meeting instead of a technical meeting. It will be at JT Whitney's since that went over quite well last time. When:Thursday, October 11, 2007, 7:00 PMWhere:JT Whitney's 674 S. Whitney Way Madison , WI 53715 608-274-1776 Info/Map Description: In October we'll be having a social meeting at JT Whitney's close to the corner of Odana Rd and Whitney Way. Bring a game, have a beer, and come hang out. We may talk some Perl, we'll definitely be talking life, and everyone's going to have a great time. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/october-social-meeting Sun, 16 Sep 2007 02:25:30 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perlcritic-interview Hi all, Kirrily Robert interviewed me by email about my Perl Foundation grant work on Perl::Critic. http://perlbuzz.com/2007/09/perlcritic-an-interview-with-chris-dolan.html Chris http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perlcritic-interview Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:11:59 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-class-question http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-class-question Sat, 15 Sep 2007 07:50:54 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jeff-upload-presentation Jeff, I was just going to upload the audio from last month's presentation, but noticed you hadn't uploaded your presentation yet. Could you please do that today if possible. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jeff-upload-presentation Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:49:07 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/the-perl-review-v4-i0-ready-for-download New issue is out!! Don't know if everybody knows about this mag but it's pretty nice and cheap enough. You can get both the pdf and a paper copy which is still the best way to read things ... you know, in those quiet times, far from the madding crowd ;-> http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/the-perl-review-v4-i0-ready-for-download Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:22:44 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder Just a reminder that on Thursday at 7pm I'll be giving a talk on using perl for sys admin functions, like dealing with logs, config files, monitoring processes, etc. Also at around 8:15 we'll head over to Nicks diner on State Street to hang out, have some beers and shoot the sh*t. And finally, could those of you who owe me a book report get that wrapped up so O'Reilly is happy? JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:05:27 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/frozen-perl-2008-announcement--call-for-speakers The Minneapolis Perl Mongers are organizing a one-day Perl workshop in Minneapolis on February 16, 2008, and I hope some of you can attend. We're also working on a hackathon the day after and an Intro to Perl class taught by brian d foy of Stonehenge Consulting on the day before. These extras will be announced on our website once we have more details. Our site is at http://www.frozen-perl.org/ We've also opened our call for speakers, and we'd love to have your submissions. You can view the CFS at http://www.frozen-perl.org/mpw2008/cfs.html Thanks, Dave Rolsky Minneapolis Perl Mongers http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/frozen-perl-2008-announcement--call-for-speakers Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:45:21 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/listing-perl-modules Another dumb question to betray how inadequate my perl experience is. Is there a way to have a perl installation list the perl modules it has installed in a formatted fashion with information to facilitate migrating a bunch of scripts to another platform. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/listing-perl-modules Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:27:16 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jt-and-perl_com-newsletter JT's (more) famous!!! Given the relative heat and light of JT Smith's "Perl isn't dead!" polemic, it's no surprise that several commenters said, "OMG! Perl is hard to read!" Your editor humbly suggests that that line of thinking may http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/jt-and-perl_com-newsletter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:10:10 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/shameless-plug We have a conference for WebGUI every year, and this year it's in Madison. If you want to learn how to be a better Perl programmer, then you'll want to attend as we'll spend two whole days doing hands on Perl training. If you want to learn more about WebGUI, then this is definately for you. And for MadMongers we're offering 50% off the normal price. Just contact me if you want to attend and get the special discounted price. At the WebGUI Users Conference this year we have more than 30 technical and http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/shameless-plug Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:14:21 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-class-online http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-class-online Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:09:19 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/mastering-perl I got a new copy of Mastering Perl from O'Reilly. Anyone who either hasn't gotten a book to review, or who has posted their review to the Wiki tonight can take this book home with them to keep. Andy, I got the "Programming Erlang" book that you requested. However, since you're not going to be there tonight I'll hold on to it until next month's meeting. In addition, I have an XL and a M Perl Monger's shirts that nobody has claimed for a year. So I'll be bringing them to the meeting tonight. Anybody that wants them can have them. First come first served. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/mastering-perl Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:46:32 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/untitled Just a reminder that we have a meeting tommorrow (Thursday) at 7pm and we're going to try a bit of a new format this time: we'll http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/untitled Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:09:56 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-meeting-reminder-next-thursday-rosedb Oh yeah, if anybody wants a free place to park (across the street from the library) just let me know what kind/color car you'll be driving. Henry and Dayton streets are all torn up on either side of the court house (big blue building) so that street parking is unavailable, I think. The ramp is open, but come up Mifflin. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/re-meeting-reminder-next-thursday-rosedb Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:50:46 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/book-reviews Don't forget to submit your book reviews to the wiki and to the O'Reilly site so that they'll continue sending us books. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/book-reviews Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:18:03 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-reminder-next-thursday-rosedb Just a reminder that we have a meeting next Thursday. Jeffrey Horn will be talking about the use of Rose::DB for object relational mapping. Rose::DB is similar to Class::DBI, except is several orders of magnitude faster. Jeff has been working on a project using Rose::DB for the past few months and will be sharing his experiences using this module. We're going to try a bit of a new format this time, we'll be talking for about an hour or so, and then head over to a local pub for chatting, beer drinking, and food. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/meeting-reminder-next-thursday-rosedb Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:57:38 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-mongers-t-shirts2 I have two Perl Monger's T-Shirts here from last year. One is for Todd Smith, the other is for Zhen Xu. I've tried contacting you about this on several occasions, but got no answer. So now I'm trying this list as one last ditch effort. If you haven't contacted me to claim them, and you aren't at the next meeting, I'll give them away to people who show up at the next meeting as door prizes. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-mongers-t-shirts2 Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:55:34 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-survey http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-survey Fri, 27 Jul 2007 08:52:06 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/dang-i-zoned-the-presentation-yesterday_ http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/dang-i-zoned-the-presentation-yesterday_ Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:12:31 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-one-liners-and-japhs2 At this month's meeting on Thursday, Doug presented a practical and http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-one-liners-and-japhs2 Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:12:31 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-one-liners-and-japhs [The mailing list appears to be busted again, so I'm reposting this via the web form] At this month's meeting on Thursday, Doug presented a practical and interesting collection of tips & tricks to write short Perl programs. One of our (many) digressing conversations was on obfuscation, Perl golf and JAPHs. While I do not advocate writing terse code for public consumption (which hurts maintainability as well as Perl's reputation) it is fun and addictive. Here is an URL for a good introduction to JAPH programs: http://ucan.foad.org/~abigail/Perl/Talks/Japhs/ An introduction to Perl golf is available on Perl Monks: http://www.perlmonks.org/?displaytype=print;node_id=437032 The golf competition mailing list is summarized here: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.golf/ An example of a nice golf with many learning moments is at this URL, with an explanation written by me: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.golf/2002/07/msg1289.html and the specification of the problem: http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR/0/4b/ Chris http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-one-liners-and-japhs Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:29:54 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder-meeting-thursday Don't forget that we have an awesome session planned for Thursday. Doug Bell will be giving a talk on Quick and Dirty Perl One Liners. This is sort of a 101 things you didn't know you could do with one line of Perl. It will cover executing Perl from the command line, parsing files, filtering content, sys admin tricks, stuff or newbies, and a whole lot more. Hope to see you there. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/reminder-meeting-thursday Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:47:39 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/free-oreilly-books http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/free-oreilly-books Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:31:16 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/iosocket-and-buffer-flushing http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/iosocket-and-buffer-flushing Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:31:15 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/asynchronous-app-article At Thursday's meeting, I mentioned a high-profile, asynchronous, anti- http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/asynchronous-app-article Sat, 16 Jun 2007 23:04:14 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/upcoming-meetings2 Last night's meeting was excellent. A lot of great discussion. The four presentations for last night's meeting are up on the site now, and an audio recording of it will go up next week. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/upcoming-meetings2 Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:28:46 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/system-call This is a lazy, stupid question but my brain hurts, and I just want to http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/system-call Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:46:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/see-you-there-tonight Don't forget that MadMongers is tonight. We've got 4 great talks lined up for you. - Inside Out Objects - Net::LDAP - Network Daemons - Perl 5.10 Regular Expressions JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/see-you-there-tonight Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:21:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/come-thursday Just wanted to send out a little reminder about this week's MadMongers. Don't forget that the meeting is on Thursday not Wednesday. We have a line up of four lightening talks for you this week. We have talks on writing network daemons, using inside out objects, using Net::LDAP to work with your LDAP directory, and some of the changes you can expect for regular expressions in Perl 5.10. A little something for everyone. Hope to see you there. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/come-thursday Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:04:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lte-opening We are looking for a knowledgeable Perl developer, with web app development experience to work on a project from now until the end of September. This is an hourly limited term employment position. It pays $25 per hour, with a budget of 40 hours per week available. If you know of anyone looking for such a position, please pass along my contact information. Thanks. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lte-opening Tue, 29 May 2007 17:45:14 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/second-thursday-meeting-night The meeting night for MadMongers has been changed to the second Thursday of every month. I've updated the calendar and our meetup.com announcements, now I'm alerting you of the change. Hopefully this will make it more convenient for people to show up. The next meeting is looking like it's going to be amazing. We have lots of talks on the docket. However, we have more room, so if you want to talk about something, please do let me know. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/second-thursday-meeting-night Tue, 22 May 2007 11:17:35 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/which-night I just received an off list email saying that monday or tuesday would be better nights to hold our technical meetings. That combined with Big Steve's comment about another conflicting meeting on Wednesday, I have to wonder if we need a different day. Please reply to this post stating your first and second preference for: 2nd Monday of each month 2nd Tuesday of each month 2nd Wednesday of each month 2nd Thursday of each month I can make any of those work from both a personal scheduling point of view and the meeting space availability. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/which-night Mon, 14 May 2007 14:59:02 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-for-sys-admins While we're talking about talks, I'd like to do a talk on Perl for Sys Admins. I'll cover things like using perl to manipulate config files, rotate logs, and monitor system services, among other things. Unless someone else has a talk they'd like to do, I'll take the August slot. Oh, and if anybody has suggestions for things you'd like me to cover, like manipulating certain types of config files, or you have a particular problem you're trying to solve, please let me know and I'll see about putting that into my talk. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/perl-for-sys-admins Mon, 14 May 2007 11:59:13 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/presenter-available----quick-and-dirty-perl-what-you-can-do-with-one-line I'd like to do a presentation on Perl one-liners and using the perl executable to do simple (and not-so-simple) things quickly. I'll spend time talking about the most useful command-line switches and the special variables available to make sometimes tedious work go away. I'm available for the next open date. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/presenter-available----quick-and-dirty-perl-what-you-can-do-with-one-line Mon, 14 May 2007 10:56:18 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/sorry-about-the-rejected-messages I'm trying to figure out what's causing them. I'll fix it as soon as I can. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/sorry-about-the-rejected-messages Mon, 14 May 2007 09:35:11 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lightening-talks2 At one point Punkish said he'd give a 10 minute talk on the project he was working on for the lightening talks next month. Is that still true Punkish? Also, Graham has confirmed that he'll be doing a 15 minute talk on inside-out objects. I'm going to do a 15 minute talk on writing network daemons. Big Steve, would you be willing to give a 5-10 minute talk on the single sign on project you were just working on? Chris Dolan, would you be willing to do a 10-15 minute talk on Catalyst? Would someone else like to please step forward to present? You can talk for as little as 5 minutes. I promise that no one will judge you, it's about content not presentation flare. JT ~ Plain Black ph: 703-286-2525 ext. 810 fax: 312-264-5382 http://www.plainblack.com I reject your reality, and substitute my own. ~ Adam Savage http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/lightening-talks2 Mon, 14 May 2007 09:04:45 -0500 http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/madmongers-meeting-this-weds I will be speaking at the Madison Perl Mongers meeting this Wednesday at 7pm at Madison Public Library, Central branch. This will be a very pragmatic talk: I'm presenting a half-dozen of my favorite, most useful CPAN modules. These are the libraries I wished somebody had taught me about when I was a Perl novice. I intend to leave some time for the audience to say some words about their favorites (or anti-favorites) too. Details: http://madmongers.org/calendar/5-cpan-modules I intend this presentation to be useful for people with a spectrum of Perl experience. I particularly welcome people who are proficient in languages other than Perl to offer perspective and recommend alternatives ... or heckle! :-) Chris P.S. If you are on any other Madison-area tech email lists, please share this announcement as appropriate. http://www.madmongers.org/mailing-list/mailing-list/madmongers-meeting-this-weds Mon, 07 May 2007 23:47:52 -0500