appropriate response
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jt
Date: 1/22/2012 5:53 pm
Date: 1/22/2012 5:53 pm
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Either because our primary track is about real-world applications (whether they be commercial or not), or because I've done a good job at fund raising, we've got a potential problem.
http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees? On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so that seems good.
Thoughts?
http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees? On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so that seems good.
Thoughts?
Re: appropriate response
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david-delikat
Date: 1/22/2012 8:20 pm
Date: 1/22/2012 8:20 pm
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Mark seems to be responding to the main track of 'real world' applications.
I suspect he is looking for something specifically for the perl development
community. Perhaps a good approach would be to encourage people to
come to the conference because they have something to offer ( besides
a talk ) rather than what they can receive. I hope there are not many
people who take his attitude because that could be part of the cause
for the dwindling community.
-dav
On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:53 PM, <jt@plainblack.com> wrote:
jt wrote:
Either because our primary track is about real-world applications (whether they be commercial or not), or because I've done a good job at fund raising, we've got a potential problem.
http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees? On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so that seems good.
Thoughts?
Madison Area Perl Mongers - MadMongers
http://www.madmongers.org
Re: appropriate response
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david-delikat
Date: 1/23/2012 8:44 am
Date: 1/23/2012 8:44 am
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if it is all of the advertising that is the issue
then some discussion about how much
money TPF will get from the advertisers.
-dav
On Jan 22, 2012, at 5:53 PM, <jt@plainblack.com> <jt@plainblack.com> wrote:
jt wrote:
Either because our primary track is about real-world applications (whether they be commercial or not), or because I've done a good job at fund raising, we've got a potential problem.
http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees? On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so that seems good.
Thoughts?
Madison Area Perl Mongers - MadMongers
http://www.madmongers.org
Re: appropriate response
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zjt
Date: 1/23/2012 4:51 pm
Date: 1/23/2012 4:51 pm
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The scheduled talks will contradict him.
Jesse
On 1/22/12 5:53 PM, jt@plainblack.com wrote:
> jt wrote:
>
> Either because our primary track is about real-world applications
> (whether they be commercial or not), or because I've done a good job at
> fund raising, we've got a potential problem.
>
> http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
>
> The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because
> we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't
> know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is
> some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
>
> The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC
> has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you
> think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees?
> On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so
> that seems good.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> View Online
>
>
>
>
> Madison Area Perl Mongers - MadMongers
> http://www.madmongers.org
Jesse
On 1/22/12 5:53 PM, jt@plainblack.com wrote:
> jt wrote:
>
> Either because our primary track is about real-world applications
> (whether they be commercial or not), or because I've done a good job at
> fund raising, we've got a potential problem.
>
> http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?2782871-YAPC%3A%3ANA+2012
>
> The last response on that page says that the guy isn't coming because
> we're making YAPC too commercial this year. The problem is that I don't
> know whether this is an isolated thing (this one guy), or if there is
> some sort of sentiment in the greater Perl community.
>
> The truth, of course, is that we're no more business-centric than YAPC
> has ever been. Is this something I should address in the blog? Or do you
> think this opinion is from a rather small group of potential attendees?
> On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be attending, so
> that seems good.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> View Online
>
>
>
>
> Madison Area Perl Mongers - MadMongers
> http://www.madmongers.org
Re: appropriate response
User:
afbach
Date: 1/24/2012 10:29 am
Date: 1/24/2012 10:29 am
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 5:53 PM, wrote:
> On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be
> attending, so that seems good.
Yeah, that would be my 'take-away' from that; though, looked at the
other way - 20% concerned opinions isn't peanuts. My guess is it was
an early brush w/ your fundraising success, but that it (the
over-commercial) concern will be ameliorated by the continuing posts.
2 other points, though, from that though
1) lots of 'part of a family vacation' plans, so do we have a "what
else do in/around Madison/in Wisconsin that's really cool" (Door
County/Washington Isle, the Dells (?some folks love it ...?)
Milwaukee/Chicago museums (though Chi. probably doesn't need our help)
Ice Age bike trail, Wi river, etc. etc. Might help some folks
convince the other half to go along.
2) Maybe get other folks to blog/chime in on why/what they're going to
YAPC for this year. I'd not thought of family vacation, so there's
probably other folks out there who have new reasons, too. Plus, if
you got @larry et alia. to give their view/reasons, we know what a
'celeb' driven culture we are in.
--
a
Andy Bach,
afbach@gmail.com
608 658-1890 cell
608 261-5738 wk
> On that one list alone 4 out of 5 people said they'd be
> attending, so that seems good.
Yeah, that would be my 'take-away' from that; though, looked at the
other way - 20% concerned opinions isn't peanuts. My guess is it was
an early brush w/ your fundraising success, but that it (the
over-commercial) concern will be ameliorated by the continuing posts.
2 other points, though, from that though
1) lots of 'part of a family vacation' plans, so do we have a "what
else do in/around Madison/in Wisconsin that's really cool" (Door
County/Washington Isle, the Dells (?some folks love it ...?)
Milwaukee/Chicago museums (though Chi. probably doesn't need our help)
Ice Age bike trail, Wi river, etc. etc. Might help some folks
convince the other half to go along.
2) Maybe get other folks to blog/chime in on why/what they're going to
YAPC for this year. I'd not thought of family vacation, so there's
probably other folks out there who have new reasons, too. Plus, if
you got @larry et alia. to give their view/reasons, we know what a
'celeb' driven culture we are in.
--
a
Andy Bach,
afbach@gmail.com
608 658-1890 cell
608 261-5738 wk
Re: appropriate response
User:
jt
Date: 1/24/2012 11:36 am
Date: 1/24/2012 11:36 am
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> 1) lots of 'part of a family vacation' plans, so do we have a "what
> else do in/around Madison/in Wisconsin that's really cool" (Door
> County/Washington Isle, the Dells (?some folks love it ...?)
> Milwaukee/Chicago museums (though Chi. probably doesn't need our help)
> Ice Age bike trail, Wi river, etc. etc. Might help some folks
> convince the other half to go along.
We've got tons of that stuff on the web site already, and more comping.
> 2) Maybe get other folks to blog/chime in on why/what they're going to
> YAPC for this year. I'd not thought of family vacation, so there's
> probably other folks out there who have new reasons, too. Plus, if
> you got @larry et alia. to give their view/reasons, we know what a
> 'celeb' driven culture we are in.
How do you get them to do anything? I've been blogging for over 6 months now and have gotten hardly any replies to anything.
> else do in/around Madison/in Wisconsin that's really cool" (Door
> County/Washington Isle, the Dells (?some folks love it ...?)
> Milwaukee/Chicago museums (though Chi. probably doesn't need our help)
> Ice Age bike trail, Wi river, etc. etc. Might help some folks
> convince the other half to go along.
We've got tons of that stuff on the web site already, and more comping.
> 2) Maybe get other folks to blog/chime in on why/what they're going to
> YAPC for this year. I'd not thought of family vacation, so there's
> probably other folks out there who have new reasons, too. Plus, if
> you got @larry et alia. to give their view/reasons, we know what a
> 'celeb' driven culture we are in.
How do you get them to do anything? I've been blogging for over 6 months now and have gotten hardly any replies to anything.
Re: appropriate response
User:
afbach
Date: 1/24/2012 1:08 pm
Date: 1/24/2012 1:08 pm
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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 11:36 AM, wrote:
> How do you get them to do anything?
I dunno - I thought getting the YAPC director title, they gave you a
Bat Phone or something ... secret handshake? Decoder ring?
--
a
Andy Bach,
afbach@gmail.com
608 658-1890 cell
608 261-5738 wk
> How do you get them to do anything?
I dunno - I thought getting the YAPC director title, they gave you a
Bat Phone or something ... secret handshake? Decoder ring?
--
a
Andy Bach,
afbach@gmail.com
608 658-1890 cell
608 261-5738 wk
